Skyrim: 5 Misunderstood Bad Guys Who Weren't Actually Bad - The Elder Scrolls 5 Secrets


The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim is a game ripe with villains and evil doers. However not every antagonist encountered in Skyrim is actually evil, some are just victims of circumstance, or even acting in the right. So today we explore Skyrim's lore and story to dissect 5 bad guys who weren't actually bad, just misunderstood in The Elder Scrolls 5.

Outro Song: Good Ol' Days - Martin Landh
  • Alno Highking

    Can you do a list of five heroes who are actually vilains? Or something similar. Nice video bro.

  • JimMcnugget

    Nazim.He's married to a women who doesn't love, and when he tries to connect with the dragon-born he realises that you don't get too the cloud distrect very often..

  • McMunchy

    Why is Braith light skinned while her parents are redguards?

  • TheNN

    "You never know a guy until you've taken a walk in his shoes."You forgot the end to that quote, Nate: "...that you looted off of his dead corpse."

  • Max Jr

    Maro is not a bad guy at all though, antagonist doesn't mean villain. The player is the villain...

  • Ben Glaser

    I think it's made clear that Commander Maro isn't technically a bad guy. Even though he is the antagonist of the Dark Brotherhood quest line, YOU are the murderous sociopath intent on ending an empire (much like the Mythic Dawn in Oblivion). He's doing his job: protect the peace, and protect the emperor.

  • JPZ

    Thought Lucien was ganna say "there is a disturbance in the force". lol

  • Diego De Luque V

    I mean, if you read Cicero's diaries you can follow his journy to madness. I feel pity for him.

  • max van dijk

    3:23, Nate, my beloved son, i am really appreciating the hard work and time you put into your videos. I finally have a son whom I can be proud of.Your beloved father,

  • Mace Windu

    who the hell thought Maro was a bad guy??

  • Jedinate6

    Wait, PEOPLE THINK CICERO IS EVIL? PEOPLE ACTUALLY KILL HIM INSTEAD OF LETTING HIM LIVE?

  • CtrlAltPhreak

    You know what they say. Never judge someone until you walk a mile in their shoes. By then, it doesn't matter what you say. You're a mile away and you have their shoes.

  • Nicholas Morgan

    Maro doesn't belong on the list. He's the main antagonist. Villain and antagonist are not always the same thing (though they usually are). With the dark brotherhood, you're part of a murder cult of assassins who kill for the glory of Sithis and the Night Mother. The player character is the villain of the Dark Brotherhood questline. Misunderstood villain isn't something you can really call him because he was never villainous in the first place.

  • Sir Xander

    Astrid is the villain, she betrayed the family and thus shall be executed

  • Lanoira13

    I personally like Cicero a lot.

  • XxHarounXx

    I'm glad you didn't add nazeem. That guy was pure evil

  • Stewart Bates

    One person I felt mis-understood: Emperor Titus Mede II. Think about it, as the target of the Dark Brotherhood questline and the guy who signed the Whitegold Concordant he receives a lot of hate. But when you get down to it he didn't have much of a choice in signing the WGC, being as his army was too exhausted to fight (Yeah where were the Alik'r then?) and he needed stability in the Empire. Now some councillor wants him dead, but why? We know the Thalmor are shifty, so what if it's them wanting him dead to get a more pliable leader on the throne and had an agent in the Council make an offer to the Brotherhood. So with his final hours, what does he do? Instead of fighting back, he pleas with you to kill the contractor knowing it likely they were the Thalmor agent! It's only a theory, but using his life to stall the Thalmor plot would be quite honourable, no? :P

  • Mauro Molinero

    never thought of maro as the bad guy. he is the law. just that.

  • riicky83

    Braiths problems actually comes from the constant bullying (and deaths) from MRX Mods.

  • SirSirupy

    I don’t get how you could even begin to consider Commander Maro to be evil. He wanted to destroy a murderous cult that worshipped a violent god and carried out murders in the name of a sadistic religion. He wanted to protect the empire he loved so much. Poor man. This is why I always side with him and destroy the Brotherhood.

  • FRANTIC_STRIKER 2787

    "There is a disturbance in the void""There is a disturbance in the force"STAR WARS Easter Egg anyone???

  • Jose Martinez

    With Braith, I didn't know the relationship between her and her parents. I always thought she would bully that boy because she said, "I wouldn't pick on him if he just kissed me." I always pegged it as a crush and she didn't know how to express herself.

  • JotaDeeMeO

    I sense a Disturbance in the for-... Void.. I mean.. the void, a disturbance in the void..

  • Troper H'ghar

    0:40 "you never know someone until you walk a mile in they're shoes" Which is why my dragon born always steals your boots when she kills you

  • Snooderblade

    Damn Nate only 44 seconds in and youre already trying to tell me that Braith isnt the most evil villian in all of TES?

  • Benji Tamm

    Braith is the ultimate Antagonist, the Real villain, the Prime evil

  • CrumpetsRGood4U

    7:39 Lucien, I hear your advice, but I don't know if I should trust someone who teleports.

  • LandandSea

    you know I never have killed Cicero. I always spare him. I don't why though.

  • Adenite 95

    "For God's sakes, my OWN father doesn't even do that" Hahahahahahaha, great video mam.

  • Incarnation_Of_Immortality

    The "ChickenMancer" wasn't a bad guy. All he was doing was practicing magic on some dead poultry. I could understand why he attempts to attack you on sight, well it's a scripted encounter so you'll have seen him use necromancy....which is taboo no matter what it's on.. so he would attack you on sight.

  • Jack Rooker

    Commander Maro is not a villain...

  • Clara Woodlock

    I think one of these are the Forsworn. They just want their land back, they might be excessively violent, you can't really blame them for wanting to take back their land.

  • Jason Watson

    I mean really Alduin was just fulfilling his destiny as the world eater

  • Arvind Raghavan

    I never liked killing commander Maro

  • MliffinDnuder

    I wish you could marry Cicero. He is the best. Maybe if I pose as the nightmother, Cicero would rub oil all over me <3

  • e bordz

    You realize the dark brotherhood is the antagonist and Maro is the protagonist.

  • kirbster3678

    Ulfric and General Tullius should have a shared place

  • Raze Ninjato

    2:27 The first swear word from Nate?

  • I sense a mystery

    I loved Cicero from the start. I never understood all the hate for him, and how people could choose to kill him. Shame on you! ^^

  • Donkey -

    Ah yes....murdered to death...My favorite

  • Blob Glob

    Both the emperor and cicero attacked me after I failed to pickpocket them.

  • fireblast133

    Honestly the Dark Brotherhood was the best questline story wise. Thieves coming in a close second. Poor Maro though.

  • Dan Genner

    Nate milking Skyrim like Bethesda right now.

  • Adam Case

    One big problem I had with this video a few times is you called these people villains, or the bad guys, and you did use the right word antagonist a few times, but still... I know I'm nitpicking.

  • D3JW

    Hi (Sorry for my bad English)

  • WooloolooBitches

    Meh i hate the Dark Brotherhood, so im perfectly fine wiping them out. People who kill for money have no honour.

  • philip sturgeon

    i used to always kill Cicero but now i spare him

  • Sundqvist

    Commander Maro is okay! Destroy the dark brotherhood FTW lol.

  • Behaka Todoroki

    Cicero has been my favorite character since I first played the game and he's always my follower once I beat the dark brotherhood (I've replayed Skyrim a lot lol) I feel like he's so misunderstood and his journals explain some of that too. He just wants to keep the Dark Brotherhood's authority the way it was created and not have Astrid mocking their "leader" if that's what you could call the night mother. He's also really entertaining as a follower when you're listening to someone talk forever and he starts mumbling in the background or often times yells "let's kill someone!" He's also a really good follower I've never had him die on me like other followers (I'm not even sure if he can unless you kill him)

  • JimMcnugget

    Nate! You used the 'C-word'!!! I'm not angry, just dissapointed :'(

  • Matthew Tallent

    6:24 murders innocent people to death

  • Jargon Madjin

    Sithis is the last dude you want to annoy, don't kill Cicero, besides there's actually evidence that Astrid breaks all 5 tenets during the questline, so she's in the wrong, the guild shows no respect for what they call 'the old ways' (Likely because of Astrid being leader), 'old ways' meaning Sithis and the Nightmother, but there are two members that would prefer the old ways, and appreciate the fact that the Nightmother is back (Festus Krex and Gabriella), oh yeah, I guess I should add that killing Cicero is breaking a tenet so good luck with Sithis at that point

  • Salacious Crumb

    #UlfricDidNothingWrong

  • Blu Rain

    I mean... the Dark Brotherhood is the villain, not the people trying to stop them

  • Cody Graham

    SKYRIM BELONGS TO THE NORDS!!!!!!!

  • ロボット鳥山

    "Others are even objectively good people, when you look at it from their perspective." Uhm, yeah, that's called being subjective. The point of something being objective is it doesn't matter who's perspective you look at it from, it's still the same.

  • Big McLargehuge

    I cannot remember the necromancers name but she is trying to raise and army of Draugur to destroy the empire after her husband was killed suspiciously. I always feel bad for having to finish that mission.

  • Enrick do carmo

    You made me want play skyrim again ... i dont know if I say thanks or if I want to kill myself

  • JoJo is not an anime

    Sometimes we are the bad guys

  • Ivan Glamdryng

    Thank you for the video. I am still new to Skyrim so you putting these videos out gives me something extra to look out for when I get to play.

  • Dush Dj

    At first, I wanted to kill Cicero so bad, but then I read his journals in his room in the sanctuary, and only felt pity for him, and I ended up having him as a follower.

  • Suicideassassin 6

    Mauro didn't attend my wedding :(

  • Lord Gainz

    Are people actually that stupid to think that Commander Maro is evil?? How!? He’s trying to destroy the dark brotherhood. Easily the most evil organization in Skyrim. Yet he’s the bad guy? Jesus people. 🤦🏼‍♂️

  • Faith Winter

    I'm just going to leave a comment and a like before watching. No reason, really.

  • Charlie

    Ondolemar, this is a dude that most people kill almost as soon as they enter Markarth simply because he’s a Thalmor. But what they don’t realize is if you talk to him, he’s actually a pretty chill dude. Going through the dialogue he talks to you like an equal who’s genuinely interested in the Thalmor, rather then like someone who should already know these things (looking at you Ancano). And he will give you a quest, after which he will become your friend and great you warmly at Elenwen’s party (if you talk to him before Diplomatic Immunity), and will even do something for you. On top of that, people don’t like him because he said the Thalmor were responsible for the ending of the Oblivion Crisis even though we all know it was Martin Septim and the Hero of Kvatch. However they don’t take into consideration the possibility that he was either a child during or born just after the crisis and was raised to believe that as the genuine truth because of the Aldmeri Dominion’s influence in Alinor. We don’t exactly know his age, but he still seems rather young and the crisis happened 200 years prior to the game (and Altmer live for hundreds of years). Or there’s the possibility that he was just programmed to say it due to the Thalmor’s (undoubtedly) strict training and education. I don’t know, I just feel Ondolemar is merely a product of his raising and nothing more. He doesn’t exactly treat you like an inferior no matter what race you are, unlike other Thalmor you encounter. He’s a little snooty, yes, but again product of his raising.

  • Patryk Rogala

    Great video as always Nate, thank you for bringing us this content. I recently bought a gaming PC so I can play Skyrim in your 4k setup. Keep doing what you're doing!

  • Derp Lord

    the enemy of your enemy iiissssss your enemy

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